Do you find New Yorkers courteous or rude?
Following up on hhusted's post, I thought I'd add a bit to the mix. Personally, I find NYCers much, much friendlier than the English (my adopted countrypeople), but much less polite. By which I mean, an Englishman will leave you in peace and be expected to be left in peace, whereas an NYCer will go out of his way to help you, but might also bother you/invade your personal space in the process.
All this is relative, of course. People in New England, say, are much much friendlier in that way than even New Yorkers! I suppose it's really a spectrum.
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All this is relative, of course. People in New England, say, are much much friendlier in that way than even New Yorkers! I suppose it's really a spectrum.
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@ajadedidealist aaha was thinking of posting this myself. I know New Yorkers have a reputation of being pushy, brusque and rude but honestly you are right they can be much friendlier than the English. I was once yelled at in a bus in London for not giving up my seat to an older Englishman and this has never happened to me on a NYC bus or subway. I usually do give up my seat when I feel it is required but at that instance I was daydreaming and not paying attention to my surroundings.
New Yorkers I feel are on the whole quite friendly and helpful.. I remember once when I fell flat on my face on a sidewalk in my neighborhood , I was immediately helped up by concerned folk around me. In fact one kind woman even offered to walk me home. Similarly the strangers who I meet in the NYC public buses or subways are often happy to chat unlike folk in some other cities around the world.
New Yorkers I feel are on the whole quite friendly and helpful.. I remember once when I fell flat on my face on a sidewalk in my neighborhood , I was immediately helped up by concerned folk around me. In fact one kind woman even offered to walk me home. Similarly the strangers who I meet in the NYC public buses or subways are often happy to chat unlike folk in some other cities around the world.
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hhusted
2yrs+
I understand where you are coming from but I don't see the same thing. I guess it must be the neighborhood I live in. When I walk down the street, people have a smog look. They don't smile and when you say hi to them, they ignore you. I slipped and fell on snow one day, and no one helped me. If your neck of the woods is friendlier, I am so glad to hear it. Of course, much of the folk who live in my area are escapees form Bellevue Hospital. That may account for some attitudes.
Now that I recall, I remember going to the Upper East Side about a week ago, and noticed people were smiling at each other and talking. So I guess it is the neighborhood.
Now that I recall, I remember going to the Upper East Side about a week ago, and noticed people were smiling at each other and talking. So I guess it is the neighborhood.
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Uraniumfish
2yrs+
New Yorkers know what they want, which can appear rude or brusque.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
I lived in Miami for a while, and though I am a Florida native, I am not a South Florida native. Whenever I complained to my family about how rude the city of Miami is, they would always say, "Oh, everyone down there is from New York." However - New Yorkers are not near as rude as everyone gives them credit for in my humble opinion.
Everyone on my block is really friendly and I see the same neighbors every day and hellos are always exchanged. I agree with Uraniumfish that New Yorkers may appear rude and they are definitely always in a rush, but this city has nothing on Miami by way of rudeness.
Everyone on my block is really friendly and I see the same neighbors every day and hellos are always exchanged. I agree with Uraniumfish that New Yorkers may appear rude and they are definitely always in a rush, but this city has nothing on Miami by way of rudeness.
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Uraniumfish
2yrs+
Germans, for example, seem cold and heartless and brusque to Americans, because culturally they find small talk weird, and don't understand how small talk is part of the social code and necessarily shows a degree of politeness. I think New Yorkers find everyone else slow and inefficient. Like that letter I had to mail back in Barcelona, which took an hour even though I was one of only two people in the place--the clerk just didn't understand the concept of hurrying, apparently.
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@Uraniumfish talk about hurrying-scurrying New Yorkers just this afternoon I was waiting for the lights to change at busy intersection with a whole bunch of people when I was pushed aside by a guy who seemed to be in tremendous hurry - (he was wearing tracks under his coat so maybe he was hurrying to get to the gym?) but i couldn't help thinking couldn't he have waited a second for the lights changed soon after.. oh anyway I still feel NYers are on the whole are nicer then a whole bunch of other folk.
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ajadedidealist
2yrs+
The one thing NYers do is know how to walk. I was in London for a business gig today and I was trying to hurry through a rather crowded metro overpass and there was this woman just STANDING THERE with her enormous suitcase in the middle of the crowded corridor looking confused. Now, there were no signs or anything - this was clearly an overpass corridor to get from point A (platform) to point B (rest of station) and she was just...I don't know - relaxing? That would never happen in NYC - people know that if they don't move, they will get pushed!
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hhusted
2yrs+
Yeah, being pushy has its pros and cons. I, for one, do not like pushy people and will complain about it, especially if they hit me in some way and don't politely excuse themselves.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
When I was living in London it seemed like you were 100 times more likely to be run over a car than if you were in New York. Cars just don't have any respect for the ebb and flow of pedestrians who jaywalk there.
The traffic patterns of drivers and pedestrians in NYC may seem chaotic to the untrained eye, but I actually think this city moves quite well for having such a massive amount of people on the move at all times.
The traffic patterns of drivers and pedestrians in NYC may seem chaotic to the untrained eye, but I actually think this city moves quite well for having such a massive amount of people on the move at all times.
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ajadedidealist
2yrs+
I don't know @hhusted. When someone is just standing there in the middle of a crowded corridor, being completely unaware of his or her surroundings, I think he or she rather deserves a good shove (although I'd not do it myself).
And yes, @bbroadwaybk - it's so true! My English boyfriend hates - HATES - London precisely because of its congested foot AND car traffic, but found NYC a welcome respite...I personally think it's that we have height (in the form of skyscrapers) so people sort of...diffuse upwards, whereas in London, everyone tries to fit into tiny tiny houses, and thus it's more condensed. No scientific proof of this, of course, but nevertheless...
And yes, @bbroadwaybk - it's so true! My English boyfriend hates - HATES - London precisely because of its congested foot AND car traffic, but found NYC a welcome respite...I personally think it's that we have height (in the form of skyscrapers) so people sort of...diffuse upwards, whereas in London, everyone tries to fit into tiny tiny houses, and thus it's more condensed. No scientific proof of this, of course, but nevertheless...
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hhusted
2yrs+
Manners are manners. If someone is just standing someplace and not moving for some reason, the most sensible thing to do is say excuse me, and hope the person moves. If the person is so into his/her world that your words go unheard, you may have to give the person a tap on the shoulder to bring them back to their senses. Then when you have the person's attention, ask the person to move so you can get by. I've done this many times, not just in NYC, but in other states that I visited, and didn't have a problem.
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@everyone speaking of manners , this thought came to me when I was about to board a NYC bus yesterday. When I arrived at the bus stop there were a bunch of people already waiting in line. When the bus arrived it stopped right next to me and after allowing one or two people to get on ,I got on myself. I was wondering is there some kind of protocol or do you just adopt a first come first served stand. The reason I ask because at some other bus stops people wait and allowing the people who were in line before them to get on first while some others just barge ahead without waiting at all?
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
@uptowngirl I generally wait for a few people to get on the bus first if they've been there, but if I was the first person waiting around I feel deserving of being the first to board the bus. I never want to be that person who barges ahead of everyone else, especially when it comes to getting on a bus. It's not like it's going to get you there faster by getting on first so you may as well be polite about it, even in New York.
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@BroadwayBK hmmmm then I behaved like a pushy NYker yesterday ...don't think anyone objected though especially since the metrocard console seemed broken and we didnt have to pay the fare and got a free ride ..:)
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ajadedidealist
2yrs+
How about the Subway Game - ie, trying to figure out precisely at what point the subway doors will stop and thus trying to position yourself accordingly. All's fair in commuting and war, or excessively NY-bullishness?
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
Correct me if I am wrong but dont some of the subway platforms have markings for door openings? I think the 59th street and Lexington Avenue station does. I guess the bus and subway etiquette are a part and parcel of NYC culture and if you are new to city you better learn quickly or risk getting yelled at the often very vocal New Yorkers.
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hhusted
2yrs+
When I am at a bus stop, and I see elders waiting, I will give the elders first crack at going on the bus. I think this is respectful of the elders. I was always told by my parents to respect my elders. So I do my best to let them go first. After the elders go, I tend to let the women go next, and I follow, unless, someone motions for me to go, then I'll go on.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
I am guilty of the "Subway Game" - though I don't see anything wrong with it personally. Luckily, I hardly ever have to take the train during rush hour so I don't make that many desperate jumps for seating.
@uptowngirl none of my local lines have markings - at least I've never noticed. Does the train actually always stop where it's supposed to?
@uptowngirl none of my local lines have markings - at least I've never noticed. Does the train actually always stop where it's supposed to?
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ajadedidealist
2yrs+
I'm pretty guilty of the Subway Game as well - fortune favors the wily (although, @uptowngirl, that's cheating! 59th St takes away all the fun)
How about restaurant service, guys? Are waiters friendly or brusque? I tend to find them efficiently polite and unobtrusive, with the exception of the pretentious wannabe-actors in the Theatre District attempting to WOW you with their pizzaz (although they are entertaining)
How about restaurant service, guys? Are waiters friendly or brusque? I tend to find them efficiently polite and unobtrusive, with the exception of the pretentious wannabe-actors in the Theatre District attempting to WOW you with their pizzaz (although they are entertaining)
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hhusted
2yrs+
Most restaurants I've been to had great waiters who were courteous.
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Uraniumfish
2yrs+
I play the Subway Game all the time. But I think doing so is a way for me to cope with the stressors of moving around in this city. Whenever I'm abroad awhile, I feel overwhelmed all over again dealing with NYC traffic when I return. It can be incredibly exhausting, really: noise, crowds, dirtiness, people who behave as though they are more important than everybody else. Doing little games that streamline my movement from point A to Point B make me feel like I'm in control. Otherwise, I feel like I'm getting pushed and shoved by everybody. So I would go with ajadeidealist's term, "efficiently polite" for the state I aim for when I'm moving around the city.
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@BroadwayBk to be honest I have never really noticed if the trains do stop at the designated spots but will keep my eyes open the next time around
@ajadedidealist Waiter service in this town is reasonably good though I must mention last week when we were entertaining friends at the meatpacking district restaurant, Buddakan the service could be described as indifferent at best. The drinks took a long time coming, the duck salad was not mixed at the table as it usually is, our guest's request for water was ignored .. I think the waiters decided to leave us pretty much alone not very nice in an upscale restaurant.
@ajadedidealist Waiter service in this town is reasonably good though I must mention last week when we were entertaining friends at the meatpacking district restaurant, Buddakan the service could be described as indifferent at best. The drinks took a long time coming, the duck salad was not mixed at the table as it usually is, our guest's request for water was ignored .. I think the waiters decided to leave us pretty much alone not very nice in an upscale restaurant.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
I'm going to say that bad service in a restaurant is extremely rare, but the snotty hipster bartender is not exactly a lost treasure. Service at bars and clubs can be pretty off-putting; not sure why it's easier for bartenders at trendy places to get away with having a bad attitude.
@uptowngirl Was Buddakan really busy when you went?
@uptowngirl Was Buddakan really busy when you went?
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JenMac
2yrs+
I think NYers are WAAAAAAY more friendly, courteous and helpful than people in LA. It took some real adjusting when I moved here. Every time a stranger would talk to me I was very suspicious as to what the person wanted. You don't ever talk to strangers where I'm from. And getting asked for directions there? Forget it. It's true, no one seem to have any personal space here. But, so much nicer than where I'm from.
Broadway BK: As someone who used to work in nightclubs, I can tell you that the bad attitude usually comes from the fact that bartenders / servers have heard every stupid line over and over and over again; and, every person thinks they are the first clever person to say it. Furthermore, nightclubs tend to be really really busy and a lot of times your shifts depend on your sales. So, if they're in the weeds, they can't chit chat.
Broadway BK: As someone who used to work in nightclubs, I can tell you that the bad attitude usually comes from the fact that bartenders / servers have heard every stupid line over and over and over again; and, every person thinks they are the first clever person to say it. Furthermore, nightclubs tend to be really really busy and a lot of times your shifts depend on your sales. So, if they're in the weeds, they can't chit chat.
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hhusted
2yrs+
Sorry JenMac, you feel that way. I have friends who live in LA, who actually lived in NYC, and they told me the people are much nicer, friendlier, and better there than here. I actually went there for a couple of days and must admit, no horn blowing, people were courteous, and pleasant, and people were nice to me when I asked for directions.
Far cry from the attitudes of people in this city, who would rather give you the middle finger than help you out. At least that has been my experience with many people I come across. Those who were really nice to me were from out of town.
I'm not saying every New Yorker is mean, arrogant, obnoxious, or have attitudes. But I am saying there are many who do.
Far cry from the attitudes of people in this city, who would rather give you the middle finger than help you out. At least that has been my experience with many people I come across. Those who were really nice to me were from out of town.
I'm not saying every New Yorker is mean, arrogant, obnoxious, or have attitudes. But I am saying there are many who do.
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JenMac
2yrs+
I love LA . It's my hometown and I think it's the best city I've ever been to / lived in. I'm not saying I feel badly about it. But, pretty much everyone I know who is from there and lives here now agrees with me. People are way more helpful and inclined to talk to strangers here than there. Has that reputation for a reason
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Uraniumfish
2yrs+
I agree that people are far more inclined to talk to stranger here than there, which is something I really love about NY. Any time I've asked a dumb question like, "Is this this train going to Brooklyn," I've gotten nothing but helpful and friendly answers.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
@JenMac I've worked in nightclubs as well, and it also seems like every other customer is trying to get something for free. Very irritating.
And on the topic of LA vs. NYC I agree with JenMac on this one - it seems that native New Yorkers are especially inclined to be friendly neighbors, and I have had plenty of chats with strangers on the train. In LA, the only time a neighbor ever talked to me was to demand to know why the landlord wasn't keeping the yard pretty, as well as to demand to know how I could live in such a place.
And on the topic of LA vs. NYC I agree with JenMac on this one - it seems that native New Yorkers are especially inclined to be friendly neighbors, and I have had plenty of chats with strangers on the train. In LA, the only time a neighbor ever talked to me was to demand to know why the landlord wasn't keeping the yard pretty, as well as to demand to know how I could live in such a place.
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hhusted
2yrs+
@Everyone: I'm not sure I agree with everyone regarding New Yorkers being more friendly. When I was out west, I had the experience of people there being friendlier than people here. Everyone's experience is different. I guess it depends on how you view each city and what you think of it. To me I love LA more than I love NYC. Maybe that is why I feel strongest about LA people.
I do have a few friends I developed here, and talk to them every so often. It is refreshing to talk to them, because they are kind, sweet, and gentle toward me. I like that in people. I also have a few friends I met on this board who have been nothing but kind to me. And for that I salute you all. I am sure, as many of you have said, that there are people who are kind, nice, and respectful here. Refreshing that is to know about NY.
I do have a few friends I developed here, and talk to them every so often. It is refreshing to talk to them, because they are kind, sweet, and gentle toward me. I like that in people. I also have a few friends I met on this board who have been nothing but kind to me. And for that I salute you all. I am sure, as many of you have said, that there are people who are kind, nice, and respectful here. Refreshing that is to know about NY.
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DBlack
2yrs+
Maybe the newer transplants are more friendly than the old timers? If you've been here over 40 years you might be a bit more jaded.
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hhusted
2yrs+
@DBlack, forget the old timers. A lot of them are set in their ways and act grumpy much of the time. I guess they are bored with their lives and don't have anything to do.
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@hhusted and @DBlack my experience shows that the old timers who have lived in the city for yonks are the ones who are most eager to chit chat with strangers. On Wednesday on my way home on the M15 bus I met an aged couple who were seated next to me they started asking about Trader Joe's ,(yes I had my bags with me)... they had lived in NYC on all their lives and had been married for over 60 years but hadn't yet been to TJs which they had heard was very reasonable.. they were extremely chatty and wouldn't really stop chatting until I got off at my stop. This is not the first time that this has happened though.. I think many older people in the city live on their own and are pretty lonely so they relish a bit of human contact with a stranger on the bus...
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Uraniumfish
2yrs+
I've had random old women start talking to me about this and that...compared to the old women in other cities I've lived, that's mighty friendly.
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hhusted
2yrs+
@Uptowngirl and @Uraniumfish, your experiences may not be common but unique. I have met many older people in the city and they were nasty. My girlfriend told me they might be having a bad day. I think maybe they were just senile. Who knows. I'm glad you had great experiences, and continue to do so.
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ajadedidealist
2yrs+
I've been lucky - I've always had people be absolutely, faultlessly courteous towards me when I was asking for directions. Maybe it's the luck of the draw!
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NeverSleeps
2yrs+
I agree that old timers who've been here for a while tend to be very chatty - I've had similar experiences on public transport. New York IS a cold city - and perhaps that's why people make more of an effort to connect with one another, especially after having been here for so long. And I've never had a problem when asking for directions, either, someone is always happy to tell you which way the train is headed - and often I am that person.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
Yes, I don't think the experiences with chatty, friendly New Yorkers are unique. A lot of my neighbors have lived in their current homes their entire lives and they are as friendly as can be. I agree with NeverSleeps that this city can be cold, but more in terms of scraping out a living and not meaning that this city is full of heartless wretches.
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JenMac
2yrs+
Completely agreed with the friendly oldies. The older crowd in my neighborhood are very involved in what's going on in and around the hood. They always say hi and know my dogs' names. A couple of them are grumpy. But, overall, they're really nice.
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hhusted
2yrs+
Well I guess it must be my neighborhood, because I get the opposite reaction from what everyone gets.
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NeverSleeps
2yrs+
Who said that the way you react to people has more to do with you than anyone else?
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hhusted
2yrs+
What I don't understand is that I am nice to nearly everyone I encounter. I speak respectfully. I do not criticize. In fact, I smile a lot. I don't get it. However, I am certainly happy to note many of you have good comments to make about the people in your area. This is refreshing to note. It proves that not all people living in this city are mean, grumpy people with attitudes.
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ajadedidealist
2yrs+
I hope I run into you in the city, @hhusted! I like it when people are friendly to me! (Although too much friendliness makes me uncomfortable - I hate it when people, whether neighbors or passersby, don't get that if I'm sitting alone at the local diner WITH A BOOK, I probably want to read it)
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@ajadedidealist something like that happened to me not too long ago at a UES restaurant called Mediterraneo . I was having dinner with my brother and as we sat down he went to the restroom. An old lady who was eating dinner alone at an adjoining table got chatting with me and made suggestions as what I should order. I nodded politely but then went on to order what I wanted, I felt a bit guilty doing so but hey I had a craving for thin crust seafood pizza that day!
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hhusted
2yrs+
@Ajadedidealist; If you tell me when you go out and where you will be, perhaps I'll make it a point to meet you there, even if it is just for some small talk and a laugh or to. This way you'll get to know me and my personality.
If you see a tall, light-haired, blue-eyed, about 1/4 bald with overhead shirt and maybe jeans on, that'll be me. I will not be wearing a hat. I am not into hats, except to keep warm in winter. The hat in my profile picture is only used when I have a storyteller gig. And I don't have them much anymore, so I put it away in my closet.
If you see a tall, light-haired, blue-eyed, about 1/4 bald with overhead shirt and maybe jeans on, that'll be me. I will not be wearing a hat. I am not into hats, except to keep warm in winter. The hat in my profile picture is only used when I have a storyteller gig. And I don't have them much anymore, so I put it away in my closet.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
Last night I went out in the downpour, and I started out with an umbrella that the wind promptly destroyed while I was still in Brooklyn. I took the train into the city, and was walking to my destination without an umbrella when a sweet older man spotted me and walked with me until our paths separated, at which point he gave me the extra umbrella he had in his bag. And that's my courteous New Yorker story for the week.
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hhusted
2yrs+
@BroadwayBK: That was so nice. I'm glad you got help. My girlfriend bought three umbrellas, and all three broke on her.
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NeverSleeps
2yrs+
Okay, WHERE do you get a quality umbrella in this town? Are there any for sale besides from those guys who sell them for a dollar on the street? I couldn't even think about going out this weekend due to lack of an umbrella that wouldn't be crushed by the wind.
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@BroadwayBK what a lovely story.!!
@NeverSleeps my husband has some very sturdy looking Totes umbrellas . They are full size with wooden handles I used one of them on the weekend and it didnt upturn or get mangled. I dont know where he bought them but you could problem google the brand Totes to find out.
@NeverSleeps my husband has some very sturdy looking Totes umbrellas . They are full size with wooden handles I used one of them on the weekend and it didnt upturn or get mangled. I dont know where he bought them but you could problem google the brand Totes to find out.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
@uptowngirl It seems like things like that are always happening to me...
@NeverSleeps I tend to buy my practical needs items at general stores like Target, or I just do a bit of Google searching, like uptowngirl suggests. I have found that it can be pretty overwhelming to locate practical items in the city, but that is probably because most of my shopping outings are for clothes, shoes or food and that's about it. Oh, and the occasional electronics.
Does it seem more appropriate to have a smaller sized umbrella in the city? Like, so you can walk down the street with it and not be in everybody's way? Or do you guys just buy the big ones to keep yourselves dry as possible, and just mow people down as you hurry through the rain? It seems like I was moving out of the way for umbrellas a lot over the weekend...
@NeverSleeps I tend to buy my practical needs items at general stores like Target, or I just do a bit of Google searching, like uptowngirl suggests. I have found that it can be pretty overwhelming to locate practical items in the city, but that is probably because most of my shopping outings are for clothes, shoes or food and that's about it. Oh, and the occasional electronics.
Does it seem more appropriate to have a smaller sized umbrella in the city? Like, so you can walk down the street with it and not be in everybody's way? Or do you guys just buy the big ones to keep yourselves dry as possible, and just mow people down as you hurry through the rain? It seems like I was moving out of the way for umbrellas a lot over the weekend...
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@BroadwayBK the umbrella etiquette in the city dictates that you lift your umbrella high over an on coming umbrella when you are in a so -called umbrella jam. I usually have a small, fold-able totes umbrella with me in my handbag at all times but on Saturday I was sure it would not survive the gale like winds and borrowed one from the stock @home. I also wore one of my Barbour jackets and thanks to the umbrella and jacket survived the storm quite adequately. I hate getting drenched in the rain, having lived all my life with three month long monsoon seasons I hate the rains even more than the snow. I was actually surprised to hear many New Jersey residents who were especially battered by the storm echo these very same thoughts on the news this morning.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
@uptowngirl Snow is easier to deal with during the actual storm than rain, I think. I mean, I would much rather be out with the snow coming down around me than tons of rain. But the after effects of a snow storm are probably worse to me, at least you don't have to shovel anything after a rain storm. The trick is just to stay inside while it's happening, really!
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hhusted
2yrs+
@BroadwayBK: When it snows, you don't get drenched like you would rain. That is the difference. There are pros and cons to rain and snow. So take your pick.
As for umbrellas, they sure don't make them like they used to. Now it is build them fast so they can collect the money. What a scam.
As for umbrellas, they sure don't make them like they used to. Now it is build them fast so they can collect the money. What a scam.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
I had to take the coat I wore out on Fri and Sat to the cleaners - it smelled like an old wet rag, apparently. Snow would have never done that to a coat!
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hhusted
2yrs+
@BroadwayBK: Nope. Snow would have stuck to the coat until you brushed it off. Or it would have just melted and become a wet spot. I hope you didn't have a huge cleaning bill.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
@hhusted For one coat? Hardly.
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JenMac
2yrs+
The wind last weekend destroyed THREE of my umbrellas . . it was crazy. In regards to courteous NY'ers of the week, I still get lost in the West Village and am constantly having to ask for directions. People in that neighborhood are always really helpful. . .they ask if you're lost if you just have a puzzled look on your face. It seems like they sort of enjoy helping people in that arena.
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NeverSleeps
2yrs+
@JenMac That's nice! I've actually never had that experience after getting lost in the West Village, but probably because I just pretend like I know where I'm going.
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hhusted
2yrs+
@JenMac: Sometimes I act like I know where I'm going until I've walked so many blocks and don't see what I'm looking for. That is when I give up and ask someone.
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ajadedidealist
2yrs+
I was taken for a tourist once! I had carted a load of old vinyls to a record store in a suitcase, then went into the Union Square subway stop. But I wasn't wearing my contact lenses, so I couldn't tell where the 6-train was! So I wandered around asking people for direction while dragging around a suitcase. I was so embarrassed...
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JenMac
2yrs+
I get taken for a tourist all the time. I think it's because I have no sense of direction and I wear my thoughts on my face.
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NeverSleeps
2yrs+
I think I walk too fast and am too tunnel-visioned to ever be taken as a tourist. Lately, though, I've been taking things in a bit more - I think the weather has slowed me down a bit, but it's nice to take in the scenery after months of such crappy surroundings.
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NeverSleeps
2yrs+
@ajadedidealist Aw! That's kind of adorable. But I don't think it's a big deal to ask for directions around here, a lot of people that in no way resemble tourists are always asking me which trains go where and whatnot.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
I had to ask for directions today. I somehow walked right past the G/F stop on Smith St and 9th in Red Hook, and felt like a fool when I saw that I'd walked right in front of it and kept going. That'll teach me not to drive everywhere!
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@NeverSleeps I agree there is nothing wrong in asking for directions though the other day when I was on the UWS a girl stopped me to ask if I knew where Sephora was and I really didnt have a clue. I like to be helpful but in this instance I was clueless.. oh I could have logged on to the web on my phone but didnt think of it at that moment as I hurrying onto Filene's basement.
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Uraniumfish
2yrs+
Goodness, I always get myself kind lost and need to ask the good people of New York for help guiding me.
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hhusted
2yrs+
@Everybody: I used to let my ego get in the way and considered myself too prideful to ask for directions. Now I don't act that way. If I am lost, I stop and ask. I have found people would stop me in the middle of the sidewalk and ask for directions.
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@everyone I think I get a little kick when someone stops me to ask for directions maybe I now look and walk like a New Yorker !:):):)
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ajadedidealist
2yrs+
I always hear stories/urban legends about New Yorkers giving snide/sarcastic/false nformation to tourists asking for directions, on places like Overheard in NYC, etc. In real life, I've never heard NYCers be anything but kind and helpful...
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hhusted
2yrs+
@Ajadedidealist: Any time someone comes up to me for directions, I do my best to be kind and polite. I offer a smile and give the best directions I know. The person thanks me. I appreciate kind gestures like that.
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JenMac
2yrs+
ajadedidealist: I completely agree. I have never encountered a NY'er who was anything less than helpful and kind when I first moved (and even now) and had no idea where I was going.
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hhusted
2yrs+
@JenMac: That is such a nice story. It does show that there are people in NYC who an be helpful and kind. Thanks for sharing your comments.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
@ajadedidealist I've never heard of anyone actually doing that either, people seem to be generally friendly and as helpful as they can be.
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hhusted
2yrs+
@BroadwayBK: That depends on where you live in the city. You will find a mixed bag of people.
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BroadwayBK
2yrs+
@hhusted You will find that anywhere. But generally I don't find that people go out of their way to be rude.
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@Everyone I had my first unpleasant New Yorker experience on Sunday when I was at the Home Depot store on sixth avenue.. I was waiting in a long line to pay when one of the Cashiers told the lady in front of me that she was opening up a register in the dispatch section. Behind me was an older Asian lady who tried to scurry past me to get to the register. She plonked her two long rolls of whatever on the register even before the lady who was ahead of me had finished paying. Ordinarily I wouldnt have cared but I had a raging headache and I was dying to get home so I voiced my objection. She rudely tried to say that she was in line before me but I told her she had barged in and then she suddenly went very quiet. The staff who had witnessed everything were apologetic they were not at fault.. it was this nasty , aggressive old coot who had a selfish 'me -first ' attitude who ruined it all..
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Uraniumfish
2yrs+
@uptowngirl Poor you. But it's pretty good if you managed to live in NY all this time and this is your first rude NY-er experience.
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hhusted
2yrs+
@Uptowngirl: I have a feeling you had many experiences like that but just don't remember. When I am riding on the D train everyday, I face rude and obnoxious people all the time. Whether you like to hear this or not, and this is coming from a client who visited this city about a month ago - NYC is famous for rude and obnoxious people.
Tune to an old movie that was made in the '60s and '70s, and you will catch scenes of where actors mention rude NYers. For example, there was a movie in the early '80s that starred John Lithgow. He and his wife were checking out when the cashier was giving his wife a hard time about the price of a product. John spoke up and asked if she lived in the area. She said no. John then said to her "You must have come from NYC, because only people in NYC are rude." I had to laugh at that one.
Tune to an old movie that was made in the '60s and '70s, and you will catch scenes of where actors mention rude NYers. For example, there was a movie in the early '80s that starred John Lithgow. He and his wife were checking out when the cashier was giving his wife a hard time about the price of a product. John spoke up and asked if she lived in the area. She said no. John then said to her "You must have come from NYC, because only people in NYC are rude." I had to laugh at that one.
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uptowngirl
2yrs+
@Uraniumfish I generally think New Yorkers are quite polite and full of 'pardon-me's and 'excuse-mes' but I guess there are exceptions everywhere and it was my misfortune to run into one such specimen on of my last days in the city.. oh well...
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NeverSleeps
2yrs+
Doesn't it seem like people often cut in line when a new register opens up, though? It's like people take a new register opening as some kind of free-for-all.
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JenMac
2yrs+
hhusted: You were watching Terms of Endearment! I love that you watched a very sad movie about a relationship between a mother and daughter / daughter and husband, etc and you came away with saying it was a John Lithgow movie! Too funny.
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hhusted
2yrs+
@JenMac: That is all I could think of. I wasn't sure the name of the movie. i just remembered the actor. Thanks for letting me know.
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ajadedidealist
2yrs+
Hahaha! Just shows the difference between how men and women perceive movies. (My boyfriend loves "Legally Blonde" and is convinced it's a brilliant and witty satire on the role of beauty in American life, and not at all a chick flick....he also thinks "Top Gun" is about gays in the military...)
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JenMac
2yrs+
Top Gun pretty much is about gays in the military. What's with the oiled up volleyball scene? So weird.
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hhusted
2yrs+
@JenMac: Which Top Gun. If you are referring to the one which starred Ton Cruise, that wasn't about gays in the military. That was about two pilots who decided to try out for the military, and were training to be fighter pilots. Kelly McGillis starred in it as the trainer, who Tom Cruise's character fell in love with.
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