Parents Hate Parenting?

The latest NY Magazine cover story is about how people with children aren't any happier than those of us without - and apparently the more children you have, the more unhappy you are likely to be - especially if you are the mother of the kids.

Since we are always talking about how difficult it must be to be a parent in this city (though hardly any of us actually are parents), I thought I'd pass it along to get everyone's take on it:

http://nymag.com/news/features/67024/
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@BroadwayBk Your post made me stop and think .. Children are a source of infinite joy though parenting is definitely no walk in the park. I come from a culture where people believe children are a gift from god and people in India usually have children because they think that they will have someone to look after them when they are aged(Not really true nowadays have seen tons of incidents where children who are busy with their lives and families make no time for their parents). In fact I saw a documentary on British TV recently which featured a fertility clinic in New Delhi which was helping women reverse menopause so that they could fulfill their dream of having a child.
However living as I do in NYC, I am torn at the thought of having a child in this city. Sometimes I do get broody and want to have one asap but I do think it would be incredibly hard especially since I dont have a support system here. I dont have any family in NYC so I think it would be incredibly tough for me.. that being said if it were to happen I am sure I would rise to the challenge and would not be unhappy about it.
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NeverSleeps 2yrs+
According to that story, parents are in denial about just how unhappy their kids make them. Of course I can understand why: parents love their children, and don't want to see them as a burden. But that article makes a really good point in that the later you wait to have kids the more you know what you are missing out on. You can't travel the world with kids - you could hardly write a novel, unless you could afford daycare or never slept. I can honestly see why having kids wouldn't make you happier than if you didn't have them.

I know some parents in their mid-twenties who obviously regret not being able to do as they please, though they will stifle these out-loud musings with iterations about how much they love their kids.
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@NeverSleeps You're so right, I have a friend like that who married in her early twenties and is now forever regretting about the things she didnt get to do when she was younger. She has teenage daughters but loves to frequent clubs and bars and often gets totally wasted. Its pretty pathetic as it seems like that she is now trying to make up for her 'lost' youth.
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DBlack 2yrs+
@BroadwayBK Interesting article. I only got a couple of pages into it, but I'll have to come back and finish it before I comment further.
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That was such a depressing article. It makes me never want to have children - and I always thought I'd want some! But I can't help but think - will it make my life miserable?
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NeverSleeps 2yrs+
@uptowngirl Yeah, I have a friend like that who is always talking about our college days, which I have moved so far on from - it's like we have nothing else to relate about in her mind.

@DBlack @ajadedidealist It took me a while to get all the way through the article, but I think the final verdict is that even though people without kids experience more moment-to-moment happiness, they also get depressed more often than people with kids. And also people with kids seem to feel more purposeful in their own lives.
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That's true, @neversleeps - but as someone who hasn't had kids and thus doesn't necessarily understand - I'd want to have purpose with or without children. Although I do dream of raising/indoctrinating a charmingly bohemian mutilingual girl named Sophia, dressing her in anachronstic outfits, teaching her classic literature at a preternaturally young age, etc..
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BroadwayBK 2yrs+
@ajadedidealist Good point. But good luck with indoctrinating a kid - you might end up with a rebellious one!
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@ajadedidealist I too would love to have a girl...btw @everyone did you know that many NYC parents actually indulge in gender selection and there are docs in the city that can indeed help with the procedure.
http://www.observer.com/node/39166
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Uraniumfish 2yrs+
@ajadeidealist Hah! Sounds dangerous already! Having such a clear idea of how your kids are going to turn out is pretty much a guarantee that they will turn out the opposite! At least you can determine her name, though.
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BroadwayBK 2yrs+
@uptowngirl That is pretty creepy.. Pretty soon rich people will be picking out eye and hair color.

@Uraniumfish That was my first thought, too. Poor ajadedidealist/Tara will likely have the future equivalent of a punk rockette on her hands.
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DBlack 2yrs+
@uptowngirl, BroadwayBK I agree that the idea of determining gender/ eye color of children is a creepy idea. Not only is it irrelevant to the person that they'll turn out to be, but pretty much the entire significance of the relationship you build with this little person you've helped create is the commitment to loving them no matter how they turn out.
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BroadwayBK 2yrs+
And building a child like they are some kind of doll will probably introduce all new issues and reasons for therapy later in life.
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JenMac 2yrs+
Sounds like a Brave New World scenario and we all know how that turns out. It's just madness to think you can control how offspring will turn out.
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DBlack 2yrs+
Yeah, this idea especially just gets me riled up. That people would treat having a child like you would getting a new puppy, where you get to decide if you want a brown one or a spotted one...
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uptowngirl 2yrs+
@DBlack I totally agree with you especially since I come from a culture where the male child is revered and much sought after and the female child is treated like an after thought.. why in my own family that happened when my brother was born..my grandmother distributed sweets to all and sundry while my grandfather gave the workers in our family business a bonus. There were no such celebrations when either me or my other female cousins was born.
Personally I believe as long as you have a healthy child it really doesnt matter what sex he/she is, of course that being said I would love to have a girl but if it doesnt happen will not love any son of mine any less.
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BroadwayBK 2yrs+
I wonder if you can even manipulate genetics to the point where there is no room for failure. I'll bet that even if you paid a cool million for your baby boy to have blue eyes, there is still the off chance that you may end up with a brown eyed baby girl.

@uptowngirl I always say that rather than having my own kids, I'm just going to adopt an unwanted Chinese baby girl. Personally, I'd rather have a girl.
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JenMac 2yrs+
I would probably rather have a girl as well. I feel like I would just look at the little boy and say, "uh, what do I do with this? Lord knows, I've proven that I don't get your kind . . . "
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Uraniumfish 2yrs+
@BroadwayBK There is always room for failure! It's called being a lousy parent and having a toxic relationship, even with one's "perfect" blue eyed baby boy. Being a parent scares me because it's so much responsibility.
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@all - don't worry - I was just kidding (mostly). I don't intend to actually indoctrinate my kids into being little me-clones. Although my boyfriend does at times flat-out refuse to let me name my hypothetical children either Cyril or Artemisia, so he may balance out my parenting with some much-needed sanity.
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NeverSleeps 2yrs+
@JenMac HA. Well you'd finally have the opportunity to figure out their kind, anyway.

@BroadwayBK Can you imagine spending that much and not getting the little clone you'd wanted so? Lawsuit!
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